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Perhaps you could give us a bit of info regarding what you are proposing because we've all had the guided imagery, bio-feedback, meditations of every shape and size including yoga and one doc even had me try Tai Chi. Let's see...we've done the light therapy - that's right laying on a hard table with lights on me - didn't really do much of anything but piss me off.

Relaxation does have its role in our lives (even in the lives of non-painers for that matter) but it isn't the answer. And you have to understand that we have been through the mill, veterinarians wouldn't put an animal through what we've been forced to go through and if I were an animal I'd have been put down a long, long time ago.

Now, with that being said about relaxation, when one is suffering from intense pain relaxation is very difficult to achieve. Wouldn't it make more sense to provide enough pain medications to allow a person the ability to relax? Not knocking your program, I'm sure your sincere here but you must understand what we have had to endure. And everytime someone comes along thinking they have a solution to our pain we have to try it, its not an option and it gets old. The 45 mins I spent laying on a hard table under "lights" that were suppose to take my pain away would have been better served at home meditating in my own fashion. All it did was cause my pain to increase because I can't lay down - if I could I wouldn't be up at 2:00 in the morning typing these posts here.

I, personally, would be interested in hearing what you are proposing but I have to tell you that after all I've been through in the past 8 years...short of having me walk on hot coals, broken glass or nails...I doubt theres a holistic or behavioral method that hasn't been tried. Each new proposal is a form of what we've already been through. Heck, even spiritual methods are used daily by us when we're saying "Please God, just let me get through this day".

It has been proven that opiads help relieve pain, wouldn't time be better spent deriving a more healthy approach to something that already works? This is just me talking here...again not knocking what you are proposing. I suppose if I were drowning that would take my pain away for the few moments that I thought I was gonna die, but once I was pulled out of the water my pain would once again be at the forefront. I'm not sure how healthy it would be to nearly drown ones self daily and not sure that most painers could afford a pool - guess we could use the bath tub.

Maybe you could give us a briefing on what your "behavioral treatment" research is and see what type of response you get from there. But just coming on and saying that you are researching a behavioral treatment for pain relief is not a good approach (as I'm sure you have noticed). We've been through a lot, we've exercised, we've tightened muscles and relaxed them more times then we could count, we've listened to every sound and story there is trying to "relax", and none of these methods have proven to be even remotely successful. Again I will say that relaxation plays a very important part in all our lives, pain or not...but its not as easily obtainable as "outsiders" might think (outsiders = non painers).

So if your willing to brief us a bit on your research maybe we can help you out. You have no idea what all we've had to endure just to be allowed even the smallest amounts of pain medication. And like I said earlier, whenever something "new" comes around then we get to try that too and so far with no viable results that warrant the hassle it is to go from one place to the next in order to do these "miracle cures".

I apologize for jumping the gun...but you must understand that this is not an easy road to walk. And its even more difficult with everyone claiming "non-narcotic pain relief is just around the corner". We have no options once someone says "this really works" and they are able to sell it to one physician who passes it along and before you know it we're in debt way over our head for something that was worthless (because once our docs get wind of it, we have to pay for this "service"). And we have no choice in the matter if we refuse, we lose what little true relief we have been able to obtain up to that point.

Do you have a website we can go to and read about this? Because I will commit to nothing, I will speak to no one about anything unless I know what I am getting myself into. But I do welcome suggestions, I also criticize suggestions that have already been proven to be unsuccessful.